Evolution Lovers and Haters

Evolution (the email client, not the theory) really seems to bring out extreme emotions in its users.

RP: pgc: I'm with you, I hate evolution
dodji: yay
dodji: evo haters fanclub
chris: I also hate Evo, but everyone here loves it and wants to have its babies
ross: I've had evo's babies
chris: ross: I bet there were random duplicates

Poor Evolution.

NP: Directions LP, Acroplane

16:11 Friday, 31 Aug 2007 [#] [computers] (12 comments)

Posted by Michael R. Head at Fri Aug 31 16:39:53 2007:
Like a lot of software I use, I don't love it, but I haven't found anything better... (does any other email program anywhere have "Reply to List" that doesn't require fiddling the dotfile for each list?)
Posted by Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho at Fri Aug 31 17:07:14 2007:
Michael, Mutt has Reply to List that does not require configuration for lists that have the List-* headers.
Posted by Zeno at Fri Aug 31 17:12:42 2007:
I do use evolution, but there are two, maybe three things that annoy me:

1. I can enter birthdays in the contact data, but evolution won't remind me of birthdays.

2. It only does auto completion for addresses which are in my address book.

3. It does not like one of the IMAP servers at my university (or the other way round).
Posted by Ross at Fri Aug 31 17:30:44 2007:
1) add the birthday source to your calendar.  It won't set alarms but they will appear in the calendar

2) where else is it meant to autocomplete addresses from? :)

3) Please file a bug, camel has plenty of work-arounds already.
Posted by David at Fri Aug 31 17:34:28 2007:
I don't really love Evo, but I've been running it for years and it has actually never lost anything (as far as I know :) and I get a lot of email.
It has behaved weird sometimes, but I think it's more because of my incremental upgrades of Fedora and Evo.

All in all, it does more or less what I want it to do, and it's a reliable workhorse.
Posted by Vytas at Fri Aug 31 18:35:12 2007:
I use evolution, and I can't say I like it.
However, there is one thing I really like about it -- I have like 15k emails in my folders, and that doesn't seem to cause any problems to evo. It's the client's strong point, no doubt.

Ross: MS Outlook autocompletes other emails too, like those who you have written to, or those who emailed you. Very convenient, it's one of the features I miss in evo. Gmail more or less does this too.
Posted by Ross at Fri Aug 31 19:01:43 2007:
There is a plugin you can enable to automatically add those contacts to the addressbook, like gmail does.
Posted by Felipe Contreras at Fri Aug 31 20:41:20 2007:
I hate it with passion but there's nothing better.

* It crashes constantly
* The addressbook search randomly works (most of the time it doesn't)

To me it seems it works great for the user cases the developers use but that's it. For example:

* The message window doesn't have a way to set a label
* If you set a special AB to save the contacts you send messages to it doesn't really get set

I would fill bug reports but my last bug report has months unanswered.

I really don't have much high hopes on Evo.
Posted by Peteris Krisjanis at Fri Aug 31 23:20:13 2007:
Problem with Evo that it is full with corner cases bugs - which are hard to reproduce, hard to report due of same fact and it confuses users a lot - and there are too few coders to fix that.

Personally I think it was mistake for Novell to drop active development of Evo, because with right QA and support it could be a definite killer app.

Otherwise, I love IMAP speed in last versions, altough my most hated bug with POP/Inbox.evsummary problem still isn't fixed.

And ohh, yes, there is no replacement for Evo for me, if someone wants to suggest Thunerbird. Tried, but no way...it is still alfa level.
Posted by Chris Cunningham at Sat Sep 1 06:54:18 2007:
Problem with Evo that it is full with corner cases bugs


Corner cases like having to deal with large amounts of mail. It's also full of "minor UI weaknesses", like setting up filters, or changing preferences.

There are very few large free software apps where I can't think of anyone who uses them. Evolution is one. Even given that JDS 3's copy is old and ornery, I'd at least expect to know one person at work at least who uses it. Nope.

- Chris
Posted by Ross at Sat Sep 1 11:09:49 2007:
"Personally I think it was mistake for Novell to drop active development of Evo, because with right QA and support it could be a definite killer app.".  Novell are actively developing it.  The resources are not as large as they once were, but then they aren't trying to sell the Exchange connector any more.
Posted by daniels at Sat Sep 1 11:14:03 2007:
Evo's reproducing? That explains this article, then.

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