Devil's Pie "Derren Brown Is A Witch" 0.4
Devil's Pie (everyone favourite window manipulation tool) 0.4 is out. Not bad since the last release was in September... Changes are:
- Add an action to set the window type atom (Olivier Andrieu)
- Add an action to set the decorate window hint in OpenBox (Vaclav Lorenc)
- Watch all screens for events, instead of just the default
Downloads are in the usual place, a tarball is here. Debian packages will be prepared tomorrow, I'm going to bed now. The tarball has a spec file, so rpmbuild should work.
Posted by Matt Brubeck at Mon Jun 7 01:10:33 2004:
Awesome! Just yesterday ago I installed devilspie 0.3 and was trying to figure out how to make it set the window type. I was just about to download the source and write a patch.
Posted by Baptiste Mille-Mathias (crevette) at Wed Jun 16 16:54:36 2004:
I discovered what was devilspie just few days ago.
It is a very usefull application, should be include in the gnome desktop.
Posted by Ross at Wed Jun 16 19:48:59 2004:
It is a very usefull application, should be include in the gnome desktop.
Baptiste -- sorry to upset you but I'm never going to propose devilspie for the Desktop release. It's already a member of Fifth Toe, which is as far as I think it belongs.
Posted by huf at Wed Jun 16 22:16:46 2004:
it refuses to run for me. when i start it up, it prints this message endlessly:
(devilspie:2330): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
(i am using the debian packages, maybe that's the reason?)
it does this with the example config or one i've written
what am i doing wrong? :)
Posted by huf at Wed Jun 16 22:24:17 2004:
Posted by Uranus at Fri Jun 18 20:55:25 2004:
(devilspie:2330): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
(i am using the debian packages, maybe that's the reason?)
it does this with the example config or one i've written
what am i doing wrong? :)
It's really nice that you can toggle the window decoration in OpenBox, but how is that done?
Sorry if I overlooked something or am in any other way a complete moron :)
Posted by Vaclav Lorenc at Wed Jun 23 14:36:24 2004:
Posted by Lucas Hazel (aka nipuL) at Mon Jun 28 14:47:50 2004:
Sorry if I overlooked something or am in any other way a complete moron :)
A great app made even greater. An idea for the next release (late 2005? ;P), have an option for explicitly setting window hints?
<action name="DevilsPieWMHint">
<property value="NET_WM_BLAH" />
</action>
Posted by Toby Haynes at Tue Jun 29 20:51:38 2004:
<action name="DevilsPieWMHint">
<property value="NET_WM_BLAH" />
</action>
This is very very useful application. Having been an ardent sawfish user and struggled as it wasn't really maintained as GNOME advanced, this utility is a real show saver. Finally my instant messaging windows are on every one of my workstations all the time.
I guess there is no chance of per-application window styles ala Sawfish? I used to like that for specific types of apps (so any utility would use microgui while most apps used the normal theme).
Thanks!
Toby Haynes
Posted by Ross at Tue Jun 29 21:31:18 2004:
I guess there is no chance of per-application window styles ala Sawfish? I used to like that for specific types of apps (so any utility would use microgui while most apps used the normal theme).
Thanks!
Toby Haynes
Toby: sorry, per-window themes isn't possible with the current Extended Window Manager spec, so devilspie cannot do it.
Posted by Larry W. Virden at Wed Jun 30 19:01:24 2004:
Question about the Hide actions.
I'm using the GNOME distributed by Sun. In
this version, there's nothing that is obviously labeled pager and tasklist. There's a Window List and a Workspace switcher. Are these the old names for those concepts?
My question is this - if someone marks an application as being hidden from the pager and tasklist, and that application is minimized, how would the user get back to it?
Should this be a case where devilspie refused to allow the application to be minimized?
Posted by Larry W. Virden at Wed Jun 30 19:05:19 2004:
I'm using the GNOME distributed by Sun. In
this version, there's nothing that is obviously labeled pager and tasklist. There's a Window List and a Workspace switcher. Are these the old names for those concepts?
My question is this - if someone marks an application as being hidden from the pager and tasklist, and that application is minimized, how would the user get back to it?
Should this be a case where devilspie refused to allow the application to be minimized?
How does one take advantage of the Wintype functionality?
I see the various values one can assign but I'm not understanding why I would do so.
I can understand the removal of decorations - if I was going to hide something from the tasklist or pager, I'd remove the decoration as well <smile>.
Also, the "what's new" mentions that devilspie watches all screens for events. The readme doesn't mention how to code the xml so that an action is specific to a screen - I might want apps invoked on one screen to be treated differently than the same apps invoked on another screen display.
Posted by Larry W. Virden at Thu Jul 1 12:17:37 2004:
I see the various values one can assign but I'm not understanding why I would do so.
I can understand the removal of decorations - if I was going to hide something from the tasklist or pager, I'd remove the decoration as well <smile>.
Also, the "what's new" mentions that devilspie watches all screens for events. The readme doesn't mention how to code the xml so that an action is specific to a screen - I might want apps invoked on one screen to be treated differently than the same apps invoked on another screen display.
Does devilspie monitor the supplied xml file for updates? That is, if I want to add or modify the windows that devilspie is monitoring, can I just modify the xml file, or do I have to terminate the process first, make the changes, then restart the process?
Posted by tomte at Thu Jul 8 13:15:58 2004:
very cool release indeed;
being one of the rare openbox3 w/ kde users, I really like devilspie and depend on it to automaticaly keep my desktops organized and clean. I especially like the ability to remove the win-decoration...
regards,
tomte
Posted by rentar at Tue Jul 20 15:51:58 2004:
being one of the rare openbox3 w/ kde users, I really like devilspie and depend on it to automaticaly keep my desktops organized and clean. I especially like the ability to remove the win-decoration...
regards,
tomte
Yeah ... I love the ability to remove the win-decoration as well ... only it doesn't work in Metacity (which is, of course documented). Maybe using the Motif WM hints would allow that (if code for that is needed, take a look at xwin.c in rdesktop (see my url) and search for mwm_hide_decorations which works in metacity ...)
Posted by Vaclav Lorenc at Wed Jul 21 19:33:33 2004:
rentar: I've tried that motif trick and it seems to work, thanks :)
all: Check out my url for the latest remove_decorations patch, if you want.
From now it seems that remove_decoration action is able to work with openbox, XFCE4, kwin, Metacity (and more?)...
Enjoy :)
Posted by Sigma42 at Sat Jul 31 05:42:07 2004:
all: Check out my url for the latest remove_decorations patch, if you want.
From now it seems that remove_decoration action is able to work with openbox, XFCE4, kwin, Metacity (and more?)...
Enjoy :)
I get this:
(devilspie:20151): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
About 7-8 times with Openbox 3 on Gentoo. I'm running libwnck-2.6.2.1.
Any suggestions? I know this works for others on Openbox3.
Posted by Larry W. Virden at Mon Oct 11 18:55:34 2004:
(devilspie:20151): Wnck-WARNING **: Unhandled action type (nil)
About 7-8 times with Openbox 3 on Gentoo. I'm running libwnck-2.6.2.1.
Any suggestions? I know this works for others on Openbox3.
I'm still running 0.4 due to problems
getting 0.7 to compile. I've a user reporting the following:
She has 3 flurbs, watching for pieces of the title bar. The flurb is set up to move the window into workspace 2 of metacity.
The behavior she sees is the app (which has 3 different windows - that's why the 3 flurbs) starting up. Then she sees the windows moved to workspace 2. Then she sees the windows return to the current workspace 1. I've checked - there are no other flurbs in conflict. So I'm uncertain what is going on, or even how to debug why devilspie is behaving in this manner.
Posted by Larry W. Virden at Tue Nov 9 12:44:04 2004:
getting 0.7 to compile. I've a user reporting the following:
She has 3 flurbs, watching for pieces of the title bar. The flurb is set up to move the window into workspace 2 of metacity.
The behavior she sees is the app (which has 3 different windows - that's why the 3 flurbs) starting up. Then she sees the windows moved to workspace 2. Then she sees the windows return to the current workspace 1. I've checked - there are no other flurbs in conflict. So I'm uncertain what is going on, or even how to debug why devilspie is behaving in this manner.
While awaiting a new release of DevilsPie which will build on my platform, I received a new problem report today.
A user wanted to mark a window as being below - but does no want to mark it as going to a particular workspace. When he attempts this combination, it appears that the flurb for above FALSE is being
ignored.
This is devilspie 0.4, and the Sun GNOME 2.0 release, with the distributed metacity.
Anyone know a work around for this?
Posted by Young
at Sat Oct 15 00:53:36 2005:
Posted by Young
at Sat Oct 15 00:53:37 2005:
A user wanted to mark a window as being below - but does no want to mark it as going to a particular workspace. When he attempts this combination, it appears that the flurb for above FALSE is being
ignored.
This is devilspie 0.4, and the Sun GNOME 2.0 release, with the distributed metacity.
Anyone know a work around for this?
